trenthornibrook
2017-02-17 06:16
Hi @matt - I have invited Melissa Ngau to this slack account too. She is a QA working for Cevo - shes at client site with Ron and myself.
trenthornibrook
2017-02-17 06:18
The buidkite slack is pretty useful and they usually crowd source their help
matt
2017-02-17 06:20
Anyway - thanks for the great idea, I?m about to head off. Have a great weekend :tada:
lardcanoe
2017-02-17 23:46
hello everyone. started using pact yesterday. very early stages of use. would like to hear a little bit about the roadmap, if there is one.
matt
2017-02-18 11:31
Hi @lardcanoe, I?d checkout https://docs.pact.io/roadmap/ with respect to language updates and https://github.com/pact-foundation/pact-specification/ (this is versioned with branches) with respect to Pact features that any language must support to consider to be "Pact X.Y? compatible
lardcanoe
2017-02-20 22:09
we're transitioning to microservices and it fits in perfectly for testing service contracts. i have the pact broker running in our kubernetes cluster. my guess is we'll stick with our own broker and not use the hosted one in beta unless it has new features not in the open source version (and those features are useful to us). but so far the pact broker is working perfectly for what it is intended to do.
trenthornibrook
2017-02-20 22:13
I?m working at a place with many services - we were using a docker-compose config that would run a local pact broker on an EC2 instance. Though instead of doing anything to make it resilient, I found out that DiUS had a SaaS option for Pact that has simple http auth around it.
trenthornibrook
2017-02-20 22:14
Here we?re using Pacts within junit, but I?m not across a lot of the big detail
matt
2017-02-20 22:18
@lardcanoe at the moment, as @trenthornibrook says it?s essentially the open source Pact broker with basic auth added (also running on Kube).
matt
2017-02-20 22:18
We do plan on adding features around it that may not make it into the open-source version
travi
2017-02-20 22:21
do your plans for the hosted version include going beyond basic auth? separating read from write is probably the biggest want from my team, so that ci can push (a token would be great) but users could see the web ui w/o write access
travi
2017-02-20 22:26
my team is in the process of thinking through hosting our own broker and the auth pieces are getting our attention so far. we were considering an api token for ci that would give full rights, but using something like github oauth for web users and mostly (maybe completely) limiting them to read-only. i think this would be our only reason to continue down the path of hosting our own.
travi
2017-02-20 22:26
happy to help think things through in this area if you end up going down that path
matt
2017-02-20 22:30
the longer answer is we need a better way to manage issues/features across the entire Pact ecosystem. We currently have issues sprawled across a bunch of repos, and use Trello boards internally. I?m looking at something like https://github.com/philschatz/gh-board or https://github.com/huboard/huboard to help us drive the OSS stuff.
matt
2017-02-20 22:31
For now, I would guess that we are a while away from this but obviously we would love to collaborate where possible.
matt
2017-02-20 22:32
OAuth, SAML and API tokens are probably the standard path to take (and seem to be the most commonly discussed/requested authentication features).
matt
2017-02-20 22:33
What you?re saying sounds quite sensible, albeit linking to GH is something we?d need to manage carefully
travi
2017-02-20 22:52
more likely that we would approach it as a wrapper around it, mostly to protect us from diverging from the normal broker instance
travi
2017-02-20 22:53
nginx has a github oauth integration that we are planning to explore for that part
tigris
2017-02-20 23:17
Would pact be an option to deal with AWS integration testing? I.e. services that either send messages to SQS or retrieve 0-many messages from SQS. I'm sick of writing AWS wrappers and injecting "test clients" into my code... sooooo much code
matt
2017-02-20 23:18
@tigris a colleague has used them for lambda services, in theory it should work for message producers - all that matters is the payload really, the wire protocol is orthogonal from a contract-testing standpoint
tigris
2017-02-20 23:21
lambda was an example i was thinking of, but that has another problem that when lambda invokes your code you also get a `context` object that includes various environment things
tigris
2017-02-20 23:22
example of SQS message problem - _consumer_ pulls message from SQS, does thing with message... _producer_ puts message into SQS directly... no issues here, as you say, it's message communication, no reason pact can't help
tigris
2017-02-20 23:23
problem is, if the producer then changes it's mind and says i'll send an SNS instead, and subscribe the SQS to the SNS... even though the message produced is identical, that subscription process will alter the message
trenthornibrook
2017-02-21 02:30
I?m talking other things? we use pact for SQS consumers and providers.
shahzadahmad
2017-02-22 13:07
hey guys.. new to pact here... we are using the pact-net version. So when a pact file is an interaction definition of the following. Does it create a pact that always when queried with 123 you get "Mike" back or when queried with an ID you get the response body of the structure specified
{
"description": "A GET request",
"request": {
"method": "get",
"path": "/customers/123",
"headers": {
"Accept": "application/json"
}
},
"response": {
"status": 200,
"headers": {
"Content-Type": "application/json; charset=utf-8"
},
"body": {
"id": 123,
"firstName": "Mike",
"lastName": "Gore"
}
}
}
matt
2017-02-22 20:38
I don?t believe the .NET version has flexible matching (i.e. https://docs.pact.io/documentation/javascript/flexible_matching.html)
matt
2017-02-23 10:25
Take a look at https://github.com/SEEK-Jobs/pact-net/pull/79, there might be something in it for you.
matt
2017-02-23 10:26
In terms of publishing, It?s easy enough to do: https://github.com/bethesque/pact_broker/wiki/Publishing-and-retrieving-pacts
matt
2017-02-23 10:30
that PR contains the matchers stuff, but skips straight to v3 of the spec. I think there is still work being done to uplift it (e.g. v2 spec implementation)
shahzadahmad
2017-02-23 10:48
hopefully it is in a good enough state to use. will iron out whatever kinks it might have. I am really keen to get the team here to start using pact.
matt
2017-02-23 10:49
Might be worth poking them on the PR to see where things are at. If you?re really keen, perhaps you could help uplift the lib?
shahzadahmad
2017-02-23 11:02
as our implementations are on service fabric ...I am going to see if we can also get it to use service fabric proxyfactories to determine endpoints
trenthornibrook
2017-03-15 06:33
All is going good - just missing some Pact zen here. :slightly_smiling_face:
abe
2017-04-26 12:12
not a pact broker thing but a pact thing...has any one delt with optionally null values?
abe
2017-04-26 12:13
as it stands it seems not supported and won't be for a while so i was wondering if any one has found a work around?
abe
2017-04-27 07:17
if some has a service that may return null for string or number and you write two tests you can never get a full rack of green tests
matt
2017-04-27 07:46
Normally in this case you would have two separate provider states ?Given some state that returns null?, ?I expect some fields to be present that doesn?t include that null one? and thene ?Given some state that returns a value? -> ?I expect that field to be present?
matt
2017-04-27 07:46
There are a bunch of discussions on some pact issues (can?t recall) that discuss why
abubics
2017-04-27 23:38
If that service doesn?t return values deterministically, that?s probably the problem you should solve, or at least track :slightly_smiling_face:
rholshausen
2017-05-01 06:48
I can see `A webhook for the pact between retailer-catalogue and pricing`
matt
2017-05-02 01:51
@trenthornibrook we have a patch for that webhook problem Trent, OK if I upgrade your instance? (should be transparent)
mouser
2017-05-02 01:53
hey @matt - I?m not exactly sure what trents issue is but our irexchange broker seems to be producing an error similar to this when I execute one of my webhooks: https://github.com/bethesque/pact_broker/issues/59
mouser
2017-05-02 01:53
will upgrading our broker solve this? I?m not sure what version of the broker we?re running currently, sorry
matt
2017-05-02 01:54
Let me know when works, if you?d like the confidence of testing against an upgraded version before you do (I can create a temporary one for you)
mouser
2017-05-02 01:56
i?d be ok with upgrading at any time as long as we can rollback if there are issues. I assume the upgrade won?t remove existing PACTs from the broker?
matt
2017-05-02 01:57
I?ll look to do it around ~30mins or so - most people out to lunch so if any blimps it should be minimal impact
matt
2017-05-02 02:22
OK we are upgraded, let me know if you see any issues. I?m not seeing any log spikes etc.
matt
2017-05-02 02:27
you?re welcome - let us know if you have any problems. I?m just stepping out for lunch also but should be available this afternoon
trenthornibrook
2017-05-02 04:58
hey 0 it looks like we?re getting a `500` back from https://irexchange.pact.dius.com.au/webhooks since the change.
`"undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass?` on
`/home/app/pact_broker/vendor/bundle/ruby/2.2.0/gems/pact_broker-1.17.0/lib/pact_broker/api/decorators/webhooks_decorator.rb:12:in `block in <class:WebhooksDecorator>??,`
thadir
2017-05-11 12:41
Making my coleagues read this https://www.martinfowler.com/articles/consumerDrivenContracts.html
thadir
2017-05-17 12:35
just for funsies, but when will http://www.pact.io io fix there https error and when will our slack use that beutiful PB to a nice logo of that I saw in one of the pact foudnation repos :wink:
matt
2017-05-17 13:29
We had a meetup with a bunch of contributors last week - the website redesign is high on the priority list. We?ll sort SSL then no doubt.
thadir
2017-05-18 14:37
:slightly_smiling_face:, hey your the only letterd slack I have and I have a lot of slack :slightly_smiling_face: (the company that hired my Skills Portbase, The company that pays me Sogeti, You gous, then there is the NLJUG group, and a few others). I think slack is getting hip :wink:
rholshausen
2017-05-19 02:19
We could load the pact foundation icon, it just needs to be sized correctly.
matt
2017-05-19 02:20
Yep, if you login/logout of this channel (or whatever it takes to refresh) it should have a link logo there
thadir
2017-05-19 07:53
It works nicly, :slightly_smiling_face: the hipster stuff is so neet :slightly_smiling_face:. Looking good guys
thadir
2017-05-19 07:56
I saw the pm, were going to test it on monday. Today is in the theme of penetration test for production.
thadir
2017-05-31 12:54
btw, I totaly forgot it looks good, still room for imporvements but this is way better :slightly_smiling_face:.
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